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Statanic mass?>, > <<<<<<<<< murder and a sacrifice for him, which makes him feel responsible, since it > would not have happened had he not been there. I recognized the voice of the mysterious woman first time I saw the film. However, as we might imagine, there were many who believed his death was far from natural. Somerton could hardly be described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.' '<<<<<<<<<<<> I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. (3) With the advent of cyberspace, and just simple disinterest many newspaper companies have gone under. The lower part is made of paper-mache, while the upper one This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. WebIn Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the protagonist Bill arrives at a secret party/orgy: Shortly after arriving, he is warned by a masked woman to leave ASAP. Perhaps Alice was already attending these rituals and this was a way to gently break in stuffy and repressed Bill to this new found club and part of his initiation. He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. Being "all a Charade," doesn't mean it was all a dream. But the worst thing is your silly and smug arrogance. While Polanski is the master ofparanoia, The Ninth Gate had too many things wrong with it. >>Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >>her voice in his head while looking over the body. >>>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton people> only learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious of> his manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coat> pocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do, > you want me to say?..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. The big question is how did the mask get there, and who left it? Like much of the director's work like The Shining, movie fans love to debate the symbolism and meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. That is a possible explanation. WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. He > was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," > were killers. WebThat particular Royal event featured masked women who were as NOT dressed as those in the Eyes Wide Shut ritual. WebEyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubricks love letter to his wife. '<<<<<<<<<<< I think it is clear he was > referring to the Somerton party. It was a > party nevertheless. ANSWERS: 4. You're coming across as yet another FUCKING TROLL!! For instance,it's fairly obvious from the start who the Mysterious Woman is. No comments. He's eventually discovered and forced to remove his mask but is saved from a bleak fate by another masked woman who tried to warn him to leave earlier. And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket? Interesting, when you search for "actress" in Google image search youget mostly kind of Indian looking women, After the party that Bill & his wife attended, Bill goes off on this solitary journey without her, through the streets and roads of New York State, to have his violent and erotic adventures. > Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. 10 Stanley Kubricks Sudden Death. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing this," Mandy says, "Ya." > First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was > showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. "anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? And even if it was clear, even if he hadreferred directly to the events of the night before as the (Somerton)party, it would still be uncertain, because. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. >>>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone accept> anything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman> (or women) as "a hooker. >>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Bill> has been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-> vis Mandy and the masked woman. In one of the final scenes, Bill comes home and as he comes to bed he sees Alice (Nicole Kidman) sleeping next to the same Venetian mask he wore at the party. Stanley Kubricks Eyes Wide Shut is one of those rare movies that blur the lines between fact and fiction, the real and the fantastical. But which'party' is Bill referring to? He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because it> gives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerful> position - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing to> the demands and realities of Ziegler's world). Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. >>>>>>>>If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" >>Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >>see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >>together.>, > These last points I've already covered>. Much as you often dream of people, in a distorted way, whom you met while awake. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? Does anyone else sense the inspiration of the mask designs from the film Eyes Wide Shut? Lets look at the basic plot of this film. >What else could he call it? :>released around the same time, The Ninth Gate. Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curransuffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make aconnection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafethat set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier servedas Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). But that's not the half of it. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any way. Given that you have, as you already admitted, absolutely nounderstanding of the terms used or indeed the context in which theywere used, your pedantry is now exposed as pure and contemptiblefraudulence. >>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<. that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler). Eyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubrick's final movie starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, but what does the mask on the pillow near the end mean? What a joke to call them "philosophers." Many of the nude women begin pairing up with the fully-clothed men, and the orgy begins in nearly full view. ANSWER. She helps Bill at the > The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy > all along, If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? Clearly, of course,the Somerton ritual is a mirror of Ziegler's party (with each event inmany ways serving as the 'truth' of the other): whether its Mandy atthe party or at the ritual or at both, the outcome is still the same:a corpse in a morgue. <<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>>wearing> masks? But what he was getting at was whether it was murder and a sacrifice for him, which makes him feel responsible, since it would not have happened had he not been there. Well thats all true, but of course that was SK making a masterpiece and one of the most amazing films ever made IMO. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, > etc. He's super modern too, so his favorite movies include Jaws, Die Hard, The Thing, Ghostbusters and Batman. <<<<<<<<<<. People often don't make definitive connections between things at the moment. > But the credits have Abigail Good as> "mysterious woman" and Julienne Davis as Mandy. He didn't recognise her voice. You saw > her volunteer to sacrifice herself so the orgy managers would let Doctor > Cruise go free.>> If the woman in the mask had been the same woman as Mandy, you would have > expected some recognition of that from Doctor Cruise. 2. - Zieglerwasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so asto avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is justbetween us"). WebSleep Mask for Women, Eye Mask for Sleeping Blindfold Block Out Light and Relieves Dry Eyes with Extra Gel Beads Pad,Super Smooth and Flower Patterns 4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars Amazing. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? > > On Jan 11, 6:50 am, dumb_n00b wrote: > > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. Mon 14th Feb 2022 19.00 GMT. andpleading with her to take off her mask? The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. -- Steven L.Email: [email protected], http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB6g66OYoKI, "Steven L." wrote in message. because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film > audience.>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of> 'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simply> because of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?> And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member of> the power elite? Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come together. WebDirected by Stanley Kubrick Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jocelyn Pook Cinematography by Larry Smith (lighting (meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". > >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? And of course how did > the mask get on his pillow? It was a party nevertheless. Think of that journey as Dr. Bill's "living nightmare" or "daydream," which began after he left his wife. But examine the frame showing the overhead shot in the morgue, with all the shots of Mandy in the bathroom. But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. How doesshe know this? > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? What's going on?>> Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? Eyes Wide Shut cast Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as a married couple, with the former playing a doctor who goes on a strange, sexually charged journey one night when his wife admits to having had adulterous thoughts. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually know> about Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask > <<<<<<<<<<<<. I always felt a hint of a suggestion, that Alice was someone at that Ceremony/orgy. In a > case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his > mind, but he was kinda busy. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. He had no reason to think Zeigler was at Somerton, > till Zeigler tells him. and she >> replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," >> Mandy says, "I know." Why would he demand that she take offher mask if this were so? What a joke to call them "philosophers." for the morgue scene but it is still meant to be the same Mandy. WebEyes Wide Shut (1999) Abigail Good: Mysterious Woman, Masked Party Principal Showing all 3 items Jump to: Quotes (3) Quotes Mysterious Woman : Stop! It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing. A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad WebThe protagonists mask (Bill Harford, interpreted by Tom Cruise) is a Venetian mask that covers the entire face. WebEyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By NomadMessenger From $8.79 Wide Awake during 2020, by Haus of Butterfly Flat Mask By hausofbutterfly From $10.99 Eyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By ArjunVile From $10.99 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By Misschemical From $9.16 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By while walking down one of the NY streets, the background glowsbeautifucally. ", "Victor what can I say. Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. Weve got a beautiful feminine version of the lead mask that features a baroque pattern and crystal embellishments, as well as a feathered mask similar to the Indeed, the film iscentrally concerned with the failure of a 'male-centric' andpatriarchal ideology to deal with female desire; and the narrativethrust of the film revolves around Bill's increasingly hopelessefforts to flee from (but also to copy and avenge) Alice's desire, adesire from which he is completely excluded, just as he is laterexcluded from the desire-space of the power-elite at Somerton. Statanic mass? The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The Novel of Dreams (1925-1926), can be interpreted in different ways. ---people with no idea of the futility and silliness of counting endless grains of sands, with their mental masturbations and perserverations. Tragically it was the director's final film with Kubrick dying less than a week after screening an incomplete cut for the studio and its stars. >In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is), So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes?<<<<<<<<<<<<. Yes, the three scenes - at Ziegler's party, at the Somerton ritualthe following night, and at the hospital morgue the next day - thatfeature Mandy/the 'masked woman' - remain ambiguous to the end. We need some upstart director and SK devotee who can channel SK, to Make EWS part 2. >Apparently word of Bill's> entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. ", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIXuHaaz5iU, > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. we talked about this about 8 years ago on this newsgroup . It is only when Ziegler responds> positively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman in> the morgue?" Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? Eyes Wide Shut: What The Mask On The Pillow Means, Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best, The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story, Why Pirates of the Caribbean Producer Wants Johnny Depp Back, Chris Pratt Joins Luigi Actor To Troll Super Mario Bros. Movie Voice Critics. >> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he >> was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom.>, > Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professional> doctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety than> about Mandy's actual wellbeing. In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is) on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. Now that's out of the way, a brief introduction. That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all along, although apparently there was a body double for some scenes. On the other hand, he announcesthat what happened at that 'charade' was hugely, ominously important,so much so that the beating up of Nick Nightingale ("so he had abruise on his face that's a lot less than he deserved") and thedeath of 'Mandy' ("she was a junkie, she OD'd it happens all thetime end of story") was simply of no consequence by comparison. NG was :>the realization of that potential. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film's> critics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,> desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidy> denouement? The Redeemer's voice does sound alot like Mandy's voice, both with a hint of a New York accent. As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. What does the mask on the pillow at the end of Eyes Wide Shutmean? > The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as > though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be > confused.>, > 2. And if it's *not* supposed to be obvious, thatmeans that Polanski screwed up. He wasn't positive. When I did this, at first it seems like a similar, but different face, but then seeing one frame of the bathroom scene from a certain angle, it jumped out at me that it was the same person, but I could be wrong. I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask women and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. Eyes Wide Shut is a 1999 erotic mystery psychological drama film directed, produced and co-written by Stanley Kubrick. The Daily Planet may go under too. As though testing how well Bill's implanted suggestions had taken..????? i'm sure he knew that aaudiences would be sophisticated enough toexamine the bodies as bill is doing in the morgue. If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. No, they aren't half whispered, they might be a little quiet but they aare clear and she has a very distinctive voice. > I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the > reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the > crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. If it'ssupposed to be obvious, then why is it treated as such a great revelation,and why is a character who is presented as being reasonably intelligentso dense as not to see it? Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" at the> ceremony/orgy. The movie went through post-production following Stanley Kubrick's death, though some have argued about how much it represents his intended vision. The most obvious answer is Alice found the mask and left it out as a way to let Bill know she knew something was going on. The point, however, is that even if all three female'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the samecharacter), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not tomention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world. 2. So is Ziegler lying? Please either stop orshape up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AzOnnrAlE8, http://www.celebsvideoarchive.com/videos/Julienne%20Davis/index.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNO0BfBecc. You have to cut it off at the root if you want to cure all that polar gibberish, ocd and those annoying fetishes I'm sure that plague you. Orgy? He is not exactly > voicing his thoughts. To take Tess or Barry Lyndon in the same context is perhaps moreappropriate to various periods stylistically divergent from an intentor device for Picasso to depict women;- a later advancement thatneedn't further qualification than figures posed in gold, as was aliteral premium exacted upon proceeds, so written by one later model,over stipends derived from the estate. Those critics of EWS must have > been delerious. After Dr. Bill Harford's wife, Alice, admits to having sexual fantasies about a man she met, Bill becomes obsessed with having a sexual encounter. Was she the women at the party?" I'm your Mutineer~ - Warren Zevon- -. Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. I am normally the last guy in the, > world to criticize somebody for using big words. reinforced bythe simple observation that you have never actually posted here before[at least under your supplied handle/ID]. Was she the women at the party?" Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here that unless they are encoded in single frames for analyssis will alwasy be a mystery. Changes within the building seem to lack that phone booth sense of urgency and drama. He treated her as a not-very-importantpatient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery. S he was the same woman who overdosed at Victor Ziegler's party earlier in the movie. One of the most fascinating feature films ever made, the revered auteurs final effort is notorious in every sense of the word. We could say that even Nick was in on it and the phone call to Nick in the Jazz club was a set up to pique Bill's interest, even letting Bill knows the password. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. > It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. It's totally clear the "party' in this reference, is Somerton. He discovers an underground sexual group and attends one of their meetings -- and quickly discovers that he is in over his head. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.kubrick/browse_frm/thread/16629c3d6011a459/705fb749859063b2?lnk=gst&q=treadmill#705fb749859063b2. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > This is still a mystery. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. When he gets to Somerton, they are all wearing the same kind of costume--Nick only tells him, they are "costumed and masked." > But I agree the way it is done is brilliant and it leaves all of us unsure > of everything, opening up infinite possibilites as to what it all means. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? <<<<<<<<<<<. It's not like he is going to voice all his thoughts. > Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the > Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow > our mind. They're not 'big words', just words you are clearly unfamiliar with,apparently, words you'd therefore gleefully ridicule precisely becauseof your ignorance of them, it seems; but rather than gracefully admitthis, you instead attempt to denigrate the poster for having the gallto use words that challenge your smugonautic and myopic pomposity. As opposed to arborescent: two contrasting concepts central to muchphilosophical debate over the past few decades (see, for instance, thework of philosophers Deleuze and Guattari). <<<<<<<<<<. [Some irrelevant pseudo-Buddhist gibberish snipped]. The second, and more terrifying suggestion, is the mask is a final warning from the secret society for Bill to drop any further investigation or the fate that befell the woman who saved him could be visited upon Alice. When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film audience. On Feb 26, 3:27 pm, "Avoid normal situations. I recognized the voice of the > mysterious woman first time I saw the film.>>, >> it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." He is not exactly voicing his thoughts. Imay bewrong, but I think Kubrick intended it that way. > Well thats all true, but of course that was SK making a masterpiece and > one of the most amazing films ever made IMO. Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professionaldoctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety thanabout Mandy's actual wellbeing. WebOne of the masked women warns him he is in terrible danger. It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" There are many, many readings of the story available, with the movie itself embracing a sort of dream/nightmare logic. Perhaps the conspiracies surrounding Eyes Wide Shut began when the maker of the film, Stanley Kubrick, died only days after the first viewing of it. That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" 0. He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. > People often don't make definitive connections between things at the > moment. There are many aspects of it that ARE still a > mystery such as I was suggesting with the costume. The twenty-something woman confirmed she and her partner Leonard are polyamorous. I don't think there were any other dreams, although the redpool table scene always seemed the most dreamlike to me. 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